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THE ULTIMATE PSS 777 FDE TWEAK (Version 1.0)Background:I am a big fans of Boeing 777, since the aircraft have a very masculine looks.I like the PSS Addon for FS2004, but the model is lack of detail and it only contains three models (-200LR, -200LRF, and -300ER).Besides that, the FDE is not very accurate and the autopilot control is far from excellent.When Project Opensky released their 777 series a few years ago. I soon made a merge between the PSS panel and the Posky models.At first, I successfuly merged the plane (2D panel, VC gauges, XML gauges, etc.), but the FDE still need improvements.This FDE tweak is a work of months from me to find the most realistic feeling when flying the beast.At last, I found that the tweak has already match my expectation and I would like to share it to all FS simmers, who like the T7 very much.Main Features:1. This tweak is mainly intended to you who use the PSS 777 Panel and Project Opensky 777 Models merge.2. The specifications in aircraft.cfg are following the official data from wikipedia.org - Maximum Take Off Weight (MTOW) - Empty Weight (EW) - Fuel Capacity (FC) - Thrust setting (TS)3. This tweak package contains FDE for all aircraft models: - Boeing 777-200 - MTOW: 545,000lb; EW: 297,300lb; FC: 31,000gal; TS:77,000lbf - Boeing 777-200ER - MTOW: 656,000lb; EW: 304,500lb; FC: 45,220gal; TS:95,000lbf - Boeing 777-200LR - MTOW: 766,000lb; EW: 320,000lb; FC: 47,890gal; TS:110,000lbf - Boeing 777-200LRF - MTOW: 766,000lb; EW: 320,000lb; FC: 47,890gal; TS:110,000lbf - Boeing 777-300 - MTOW: 660,000lb; EW: 353,800lb; FC: 45,220gal; TS:98,000lbf - Boeing 777-300ER - MTOW: 775,000lb; EW: 370,000lb; FC: 47,890gal; TS:115,000lbf4.
The.air file is tweaked to obtain the 'near' realistic setting of 777 climb performance. No more 'rocket'-like while climbing.5. The Localizer is now captured smoothly by the autopilot, without being annoyed by opposite roll action.6. The full autoland touch down now becomes pretty smooth (between -200 to -400 fpm) because the tweak also modify the 'flare' characteristic of the PSS panel.7. The fuel consumption is also adjusted so it should be 'near' to the real one. When cruising with full load, the fuel flow is around 6000 to 7000 Kg/hour.
And when the load is low, the FF is around 5000 to 6000 Kg/hour.Installation Instruction:- Just copy and paste the related aircraft.cfg and.air file to your 777 folder.- Please make adjustment on the 'fltsim' section to make sure it use your existing texture, model, panel, and sound.DOWNLOAD LINK - Best Regards,Tri Wasono. @Clutch & Mathjkt:Hi.If you downloaded the tweak file, it has already contained the 'Aircraft.cfg' and '.air' filesYou just have to put the files on related Posky aircraft folder.For the merge instruction, I think there have been a lot of threads which already discussed how to do the merge between PSS 777 panel and Posky 777 Models.But, If you would like to know the folder structure and file placement, here are some pictures which can give you a clue how I do the merge.1. The folder and files on Posky 777-200 aircraft: (all other models has similar structures) 2.
Hi Tri!Thank you VERY much indeed for these tweaks! I just flew a test flight aboard an 777-300ER from Singapore to Kai Tak. The T7 worked like a charm and because it was a test flight, I was using accelerated time up to 16x. No more porpoising! How did you manage that I do not know but I am quite happy with that alone. Terrific!I've been tweaking my Posky/PSS merge for ages now and your tweaks are the cherry on top.
A few points I'm curious about:- Fuel planning: I used PSS's planner for the -300ER and it worked perfectly. How about the other models? You mentioned that you have tweaked fuel consumption. Is PSS's fuel planner still valid? As I said, it worked for the -300ER.
But how does the FMC react to changed consumption, do you know? Will it show accurate fuel consumption prediction or were the values for different models 'hardwired' by PSS? - You set elevatortrimeffectiveness=3.0. I am using a GoFlight GF-LGTII module with trim wheel and 3.0 made my poor T-7 jump like a rabbit up and down at slightest touch.:( Just curious, why set so high? In my old aircraft.cfg I had it at 0.4- Obviously, PSS loaders won't work (I used to copy the weight & balance section from the PSS aircraft.cfg to my merged.cfg after adjusting pax & cargo.) Any reason for reducing the stationload lines?
Again, no biggie at all, you provided No. Of pax for each station and that will work nicely. VC: I tried to put PSS-B777!Autopilot gauge into the VC, but it looks like the VC itself was modeled in such a way that it is impossible.
Just wondering if you came to the same conclusions? I am using a panel.cfg virtually identical to yours and with Saitek TQ buttons assignments I have virtually all functions available in the VC (LNAV, VNAV,etc.)That's it. I'll switch to your FDE & aircraft.cfg settings over the next days for the rest of the 777 fleet and be happy.:( Again, thank you for your work, I love what you did for the T-7!:( Regards,Jure.
Fuel planning: I used PSS's planner for the -300ER and it worked perfectly. How about the other models? You mentioned that you have tweaked fuel consumption. Is PSS's fuel planner still valid?
As I said, it worked for the -300ER. But how does the FMC react to changed consumption, do you know?
Will it show accurate fuel consumption prediction or were the values for different models 'hardwired' by PSS?The PSS Panel itself was designed for 777-300ER and 777-200LR. I don't think the fuel prediction will be accurate for the other models. You set elevatortrimeffectiveness=3.0.
I am using a GoFlight GF-LGTII module with trim wheel and 3.0 made my poor T-7 jump like a rabbit up and down at slightest touch. Just curious, why set so high? In my old aircraft.cfg I had it at 0.4This setting was made to compensate full autoland flare. If you rarely use full autoland, you may modify the value. But, the implication is unpredictable.
It can also affect the autopilot pitch handling. Maybe you could set the trim wheel sensitivity to make it more comfortable.
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Obviously, PSS loaders won't work (I used to copy the weight & balance section from the PSS aircraft.cfg to my merged.cfg after adjusting pax & cargo.)Any reason for reducing the stationload lines? Again, no biggie at all, you provided No. Of pax for each station and that will work nicely.The 'stationload' section was taken from Posky aircraft. You may changed it as you wish with other version, since it only affect the aircraft weight.One more thing, for realistic-feel reason, I would not recommend to modify the gross weight and empt weight of the aircraft. If the aircraft is overweight soon after you load it, it is because FS always set the payload and fuel to 100%.You'll have to adjust the payload and fuel to meet your requirement.:). VC: I tried to put PSS-B777!Autopilot gauge into the VC, but it looks like the VC itself was modeled in such a way that it is impossible. Just wondering if you came to the same conclusions?
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I am using a panel.cfg virtually identical to yours and with Saitek TQ buttons assignments I have virtuallyall functions available in the VC (LNAV, VNAV,etc.)Yes, the FCU section in PSS VC covers all FCU blocks, not button-by-button area. So, it is imposible to put the PSS autopilot button on the Posky VC.@windycloud:The VC screenshot during daylight The VC screenshot during night Best Regards. How or where do you add the APU door things? Do we have to open the xml gauge and copy and paste your thing into it to make the APU door open with PSS panel?Has anyone compared this package to this merge?: And also, since some airlines have different engines for their 777s can we just paste the correct thrust settings for their engines into the staticthrust setting in the turbineenginedata?
Will this affect much apart from fuel flow and power settings etc? Engines have different thrusts.Eg, SIA 777-200ERs have RR Trent892 with 92000lbs thrust while I believe ANZ 777-200ERs have RR Trent895 with 95000lbs thrust.So can we just change the thrust etc. And also, since some airlines have different engines for their 777s can we just paste the correct thrust settings for their engines into the staticthrust setting in the turbineenginedata? Will this affect much apart from fuel flow and power settings etc?Eg, SIA 777-200ERs have RR Trent892 with 92000lbs thrust while I believe ANZ 777-200ERs have RR Trent895 with 95000lbs thrust.Yes. If you are using the.air file from this package, you can easily adjust the 'staticthrust' value, because the turbine thrust factor within the.air file has been tweaked to match the characteristic of each models.But, if you are using the original PSS.air file, you will come up with the climb performance problem at high altitude.Best Regards. If you are using the.air file from this package, you can easily adjust the 'staticthrust' value, because the turbine thrust factor within the.air file has been tweaked to match the characteristic of each models.But, if you are using the original PSS.air file, you will come up with the climb performance problem at high altitude.But since the Static thrust will be reduced for me, the fuel consumption should be increased right?
Or will changing it from 95000lbs 92000lbs only have a very small impact, since 3000lbs isn't too much of a difference. But still, it can be a factor aye. Higher N1 setting so more fuel burn huh.
Hi Nandan,The original.air files from PSS are designed for Boeing 777-300ER and 777-200LR.If you use, for example, PSS 777-200LR.air file for Boeing 777-200ER aircraft by modifying the staticthrust to 92000, you will get the problem with climb performance at high altitude.In this package, the.air files have been tweaked according to each model characteristic and behaviour. So, by using the 777-200ER.air file from this package, you can set the staticvalue to 92000 or 95000 without having problem on climb performance.Best Regards. Hi Twasono.First off all thank you for your FDE update. Its great, Ive spent so long trying to sort out the drag with the PSS air file, the 777 is a slippery aircraft but not that slippery.How ever ther are a couple of things I want to know if I can change?, and if so how?1. The aircraft has a very nose high pitch in all stages of flight. Down the ILS its sitting with about 5. nose up, should be about 2.5.
Could this be changed by adjusting the lift scale or is it its CG that need to be changed?2. Alot of power is required to get the aircraft moving on the ground, in the real aircraft if you are light the aircraft will move under idle power power on the ground, heavey we use abit of power to get it moving, as a general rule take one throttle and move halfway up the opposite throttle then bring level. (Have no idea how to edit this).Everything else is good, fuel flow was abit on the light side but I have adjusted that allready and the trent895 has 93400lbs trust which I have also changed.It would be great if you could let me know how to change those items.Oh and Im using your 200ER.RegardsJack. The aircraft has a very nose high pitch in all stages of flight. Down the ILS its sitting with about 5.
nose up, should be about 2.5. Could this be changed by adjusting the lift scale or is it its CG that need to be changed?I've tested it and the pitch is correct at around 2.5 nose up.What is your VREF according to FMC? You should set the approach speed to VREF + 5 kts.Here is my screenshot during ILS landing using B777-200ER: From above picture, the VREF is 139kts, and I set the speed on FCU to 144.
The pitch nose should be correct at 2.5 degrees up.Best Regards. I just merged a posky 772ER with the PSS panel using your 772er FDE file and ran some tests with the aircraft. Two things I noticed were that with a TOW of 450LBS using climb 2 thrust the aircraft reached its acceleration height of 3000 feet and was unable to climb until I selected climb 1. Now I realize that climb 2 is not usually used but with a lightly loaded aircraft I figured it would still be able to climb at least a little bit.
The second issue I had was when performing a takeoff at near max gross weight of 655000 lbs and trim set to 6.25. I selected max takeoff thrust which gave me a v2 speed of 165, I cant quite remember v1, and vr but seemed to be about 157, and 160 respectively. Regardless the aircraft did not rotate at v2. Im curious maybe the fmc gave the wrong takeoff speeds or is there something else that needs to be adjusted. Anyway just thought Id share my results hopefully they give some good insight on some of the minor issues. With a TOW of 450LBS using climb 2 thrust the aircraft reached its acceleration height of 3000 feet and was unable to climb until I selected climb 1.
Now I realize that climb 2 is not usually used but with a lightly loaded aircraft I figured it would still be able to climb at least a little bit.May be it is caused by the usage of reduced climb thrust (CLB-2). But I think it is come from the limitation of PSS panel itself which was originally designed for 777-200LR.BTW. For 777-200ER model, you should see 'Boeing 777-200LR' instead of 'Boeing 777-300ER' on FMC IDENT section.Make sure you put 'PSS Boeing 777-200LR' string in the beginning of 'title' parameter in Aircraft.cfg. The second issue I had was when performing a takeoff at near max gross weight of 655000 lbs and trim set to 6.25. I selected max takeoff thrust which gave me a v2 speed of 165, I cant quite remember v1, and vr but seemed to be about 157, and 160 respectively. Regardless the aircraft did not rotate at v2.What value did you set for the CG% value?
I tried with CG=21, flaps=15 and got the value for trim=7.25. During takeoff, the aircraft can lift off at V2 smoothly.@Jack:Glad to hear that you could managed the pitch during approach.:)About the idle thrust while taxiing, are you sure about that? I though this characteristic is only possessed by A320.:)I've search and read about this issue on A320, they said that the problem is in FS surface limitation. CMIIWBest Regards. For 777-200ER model, you should see 'Boeing 777-200LR' instead of 'Boeing 777-300ER' on FMC IDENT section.Make sure you put 'PSS Boeing 777-200LR' string in the beginning of 'title' parameter in Aircraft.cfg'Ah I just went back and checked and it said on the fmc that the model is the 777-300er, details, details.
The cg value I used 25% given by using the 200 LR model on the load manager, which although its not the ER it should be somewhat accurate don't you think? How did you compute your cg numbers?Ill do some more testing and let you know what I find. Hi,Just follow the title parameter of aircraft.cfg from this tweak package.For -200, -200ER, and -200LR models, make sure you put 'PSS Boeing 777-200LR' string in the beginning of 'title' parameter in Aircraft.cfgFor -300, and -300ER, make sure you put 'PSS Boeing 777-300ER' string in the beginning of 'title' parameter in Aircraft.cfgThis is mandatory, because the PSS panel needs it to determine which code will be used for the FMC.Please find below the examples of parameters:1. Example for -200 model: fltsim.0title=PSS Boeing 777-200LR 200 RR Cathay Pacificsim=PSSB772. Hi Twasono.First off all thank you for your FDE update. Its great, Ive spent so long trying to sort out the drag with the PSS air file, the 777 is a slippery aircraft but not that slippery.How ever ther are a couple of things I want to know if I can change?, and if so how?1.
The aircraft has a very nose high pitch in all stages of flight. Down the ILS its sitting with about 5.
nose up, should be about 2.5. Could this be changed by adjusting the lift scale or is it its CG that need to be changed?2. Alot of power is required to get the aircraft moving on the ground, in the real aircraft if you are light the aircraft will move under idle power power on the ground, heavey we use abit of power to get it moving, as a general rule take one throttle and move halfway up the opposite throttle then bring level. (Have no idea how to edit this).Everything else is good, fuel flow was abit on the light side but I have adjusted that allready and the trent895 has 93400lbs trust which I have also changed.It would be great if you could let me know how to change those items.Oh and Im using your 200ER.RegardsJack.
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